I got my first speed in 1966 while in high school and a crown in the early 70s. I still use both, the rangefinder on the speed no longer works, for field camera although somewhat heavy due to the focal plane shutter but still easy to carry and shoot with a monopod. I usally shoot with a 210 but also with a 127. The crown is lighter, I keep the 135mm so I can use the rangefinder, ideal for shooting to infinity with the sports finder hand held or on a monopod is a snap. Bushmans are also a great buy.