IIRC 'The Wright Brothers' were affiliated and involved with the ecn-2.com project, I still have the screenshots of our discussions because of what happened. I don't know if they had a falling out or whatever (with the IAP guy), but if they are not leaving people stranded essentially, then that's only a good thing.
My results typically mirrored newcan1's. Meant to say above 5230 -should- be a little better than 5219 imo. Was sending from phone.