[msbarnes]

Thanks for the many suggestions.

I'm just going to play around with a few until I find one that fits me right. Some cameras I love instantly and other cameras, not so much. I'm not 100% happy with my Retina but I much prefer it over my other P&S's. I'd rather guess focus and scale focus than have autoexposure and autofocus only.

Well, I want all-mechanical for a few reasons:
1. I don't always trust autoexposure and autofocus
2. I don't want to worry about batteries
3. Manual everything is always more fun

The Contax and Olympus cameras are too automatic for me.
The Japanse RF's are OK but they aren't as compact s the other three (I don't think...RC,maybe).
The German folders, I believe, are no more better than the Kodak Retina.
I've had 120 folders but I was too paranoid with bellow leaks, keeping the film flat, and was not impressed with the IQ (compared to my Rollei). My Retina feels more sturdy and the IQ is very good.

I'm going with a Rollei 35 next so I will shoot that in good light and my Retina in low-light. I'm more interestted in shooting in good light so I think that the Rollei will do, as long as I'm not into shooting wide apertures and close-up.

Thinking about it, a Leica IIIc + Collapsible lens JUST for this purpose is still too expensive. That is a camera I wouldn't take to the beach, the bar, and leave in my messenger bag without worrying.