[grommi]

What you call "wannabe" is also far into the red. And do not forget that Kodak TP is based on technology from decennias ago.
That wannabe is a recent design.

I have no doubt that the Agfa-Gevaert Aviphot film named here AdvancedTechnical Pan ATP1.1 is a very nice film. I simply don't like the distributors attitude ;-)

@ Michael R: that's a general problem and always has been.