I bought from APUG ,an Zeiss Ikon Nettar with Novar Anastigmat 75mm , for 20 Pounds , and you cant find any similar camera lens without investing to a used LTM lens , 6 times more expensive. I know it is confusing for an amateur to see holga and zeiss for 20 dollars. World is full of idiots and you can buy an used kia or mercedes to same price. Listen Ian and buy a Zeiss Ikon from APUG.