Good to know Bill. will be good to meet Clay, and reconnect with Special K. I'll confirm with Ike, Thomas, and Steve if they are still going in a week or so as we are all going up to Northern MN for a shoot, and an overnight at Silver Bay. The ice stands a good chance of being good now that we are -5 today and onwards for a few days. As it stands i know Steve said he was coming this year.