Quote Originally Posted by Robert Liebermann View Post
Hmmm, I remember buying some from Freestyle in the early 1990s that, as I recall, they said were Ilford. Maybe that's the 'in the UK' part on the announcement. Whatever they were, the were by far the best I've ever seen - thick black metal body, nice coppery caps, sturdy reels, good felt, tough and secure as hell. Obviously would have lasted forever, maybe with felt replacement after a decade or two....
From about 1975 or so for many years both Agfa and Ilford used basicaly the same cassettes, there were minor differences. These were plain black metal and had a paper label. They DID NOT have a DX code. The Agfa ones tended to have silver caps, the Ilford ones were more of a gold colour. I don't beleive that either company sold them Empty, but folks like freestyle would get them from film labs. I recall getting one batch from Freestyle which were still labeled "agfachrome" in german.

over time the End caps changed to black. BUT the need for DX coding came in, and so newer designs came out with the Crimped end caps, and lithographed body having a bar code and the alll important film speed contacts.

The spanish firm AP Photoplast sold a version of the old AGFA/Ilford cassette just for bulk loading, but the quality has gone downhill, and I gather the tooling that they were made on has worn out. Freesyile had had the AP cassettes under there ARISTA brand on clearnace for a while and only the ASA100 DX version was left.

I don't know if AP made these or they actually came from AGFA. I am sure Simon will not be in a position to comment on where Ilford has been getting their cassettes. (I recall a distributor rep answering a quiry when the crimped cassettes came out mentioning that Ilford actually bought their cassettes from Agfa. but I am not sure if that was refering to the old style or the crimp style)

The Ilford cassettes of 50 years ago were MAGNIFICENT. I only ever had a couple of them, and one of those got away from me. The end caps were Drawn Aluminum. the cassette body was also thin aluminum and fully feft lined. the end caps were held on by the paper label which you could cut with your finger nail to remove the caps. Since the caps overlaped the body by about a 1/4 inch they would be imposible to DX code.