So apparently one of the important prerequisites for this discussion to move along is the formulation of "perfect".
As for Bill Burk who's about to challenge "perfect" in his work and stretch the limits towards blur and grain, ( #117 ) his observations will be interesting, with Bill coming from a kind of "conservative" (like me) definition of perfect.
Thomas's notes about the Magnum printers, ( #121 ) particularly the great example of the James Dean print ( Link ) put a big smile on my face here, talking about perfection... Could this be an important key to the reference of perfection many of us here have? As Thomas also expressed, something about "express myself to the best of my ability", I am sure this is something that is pretty close to the problems with the definition of "perfect", and then, is perfect the right definition if "my ability" is going in the direction as Bill Burk are, to make the prints LESS "perfect", event though his ability sure is way beyond what probably some people will experience in the work coming out from the experiment in the end...
And of course this leads us to the question that many of you have touched, artistic expression, and the feel or perception of a photograph, no matter if there's grain and blurry focus, or not.
I stumbled over a photograph today, where I find the circumstances makes blur and grain feel natural, in contrast to the "truck" sample shot:
More here: http://www.philsternarchives.com/hol...s/rita-moreno/
Is this maybe one of the keys too, as canuhead expressed ( #119 ) that part of the perfection in the moment, is of course not always only sharp non blurry shots, but compare the shot above with the truck, to me the blur in the truck shot feels less like a "true" representation of the actual moment (as it's not just the truck that is blurry etc.), while the shot mentioned above, makes full sense with the motion blur.
And for both of the shots, how would they have looked if the Magnum printers had got their hands on the negatives....
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