just in case you needed some more reading and discussion

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/8...-pan-film.html

i think it all depends on what KIND of ortho film
there are several, non-pan variants ...

i was a fan of tri x ortho
when i can scrape up the $$ i look forward to using
ilford ortho to shoot some nice portraits, hopefully it will be similar to what tri x ortho was like ...