I never really got into loving this format......I prefer panoramics and bought shen hao 617 as well as ebony sv45ti..... but I played with 120 nikkor sw/240 rodenstock /300M nikkor/14"Ektar/ 450M nikkor....... have sold the 240 and Ektar but the 450 is for sale. It is a beautiful camera and nice to use but....... we just never connected. It's me, not it.