Thank you for your trouble. I meant that if their grade 3 was Kodak's grade 3, then I'd rather have grade 2. I looked again at the Laser Reflections site and their sizes are not all available as stated in the chart in post #7. In actuality, it jumps from 7x9 to 11x14. There is no 24 x 30cm from Laser Ref. I guess I'll have to drop the whole idea. Besides, the price list was not very inviting. I had hoped I had found a Kodabromide substitute. Boy, this photographic supply market is getting mighty sparse. I wonder what it will be like in 5 or 10 years. This is sad. Thank you for the trouble you went through. I'll make it a point to pass the good deed along.