When I used Ilford MG FB, I was always trying to find new developers and methods to get solid, deep blacks. When I switched to Polymax Fine Art, I got everything that I was looking for in Dektol 1:2 without toning. I still have the last box of Ilford that I bought, unopened and unused. Ilford wouldn't be my choice to be the last paper standing but hey, OTOH, it's better than a poke in the eye with a frozen dishrag.