nworth: The current Portra 400 has a grain index of 59 at an 8X10 enlargement of a 35mm negative. The Hawkeye stuff has an index of 61. The literature indicates that a change of 4 is a barely discernible change. So it's hard to see how the grain of the current Portra is "considerably less" at least on the basis of the data (which does not necessarily equate to the real world). Are you comparing scans, or actual wet prints, in your judgment of comparative grain?