Now you talk like you were once in the marketing division of Kodak, Ron. Of course you got muddy colors. Everyone did. Even dye transfers from
vintage color negs look muddy in major hue categories. Ciba itself had huge idiosyncrasies which one learned to correct thru various means, but
otherwise had to anticipate when choosing the shot. But it was the only realistic alternative for direct printing of chromes, and far superior to
R prints, and obviously much easier, more economical, and vastly sharper than dye transfer. Internegs were rarely well done. If negs were so
good back then, how come today's Portra and Ektar shots look so vastly better? They'd still be making Vericolor if there wasn't a reason.