Two ebay buys. A lot of 3 or 4 8x10 plate holders bought for cheap...turned out to be NOS, as far as I could tell, and the most modern plate holders I have seen. On the other side, a box of quarter plate holders...a bunch of them, again cheap (shipping was several times the bid price), but they fell apart in my hands -- the glue failed on all of them. I still used them, but had to take them totally apart and re-glue them...and time consuming, but easy task. They needed the cleaning, anyway.