The Rollei Magics were automatic, so coupled meters atking to the logical conclusion.

Like others I enjoy using my Rollei's and have a 3.5E Xenotar in mint condition, & I picked up a good Automat (Opton Tessar) at a flea market a few months ago - cheap because it was missing it's focus dioptre, two arrived from Japan 3 days ago (postage was 6x more than they cost ).

I don't know what is is that makes TLR's such fun to use I thought I'd grown out of them after having my Mamiyas stolen in the early 1980.s now I find I'm using them quite differently and love the square format which I'm using alongside 5x4/10x8 and 617 in my current exhibition sets.