Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Lorimer
... His position (and mine too as it so happens), starts by looking at the old "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" argument. Sounds reasonable enough really, and we hear it all the time. You like what you like, and I like what I like, and if that just happens to be Velvet paintings of Elvis, then so be it. You can't tell me I don't like them, and you can't tell me not to like them, cause that would be elitist - and we don't want to be elitist now, do we?

Value judgments can (and should) be made about things all of the time. Not all red wines are created equally, Beethoven created better music than the Spice Girls, and the Mona Lisa is a better painting than a Velvet Elvis.

Now of course the next (even bigger) question is "What is the "it" that they got right"? What makes a great work of art?

If I knew that, my friend, I'd be very very rich.

Sadly, I'm not.
The "Beauty is in the eye" bit is one of the most adulterated quotations of all time. It was originally printed as a reply from Toulouse-Lautrec to an Art Critic of the day, who critiqued one of his works... a painting of a man in a chair, paying attention to a woman in a state of being half-dressed. The Critic was appalled, "Pornography!! The man is watching the woman undress!!". Lautrec replied, "The occasion is the couple's twenty-fifth Wedding Anniversary. The man is watching his wife *DRESS* prior to `going out on the Town' to celebrate." - and then, "The EVIL is in the eye of the beholder."

I personally do NOT like "elitists". However, I do not hold that "the judgement of the relative `rank' of a work is not possible" ONLY as a defense of some sort against elitism.
I've NEVER been able to discover a "final" answer to the qustion, "What *IS* Art". Not knowing the basiic construction or character of that which we call "Art" I have no idea where to place my "measuring index" ... where the heck do I start from?

"Value judgements can, and should be made about all things all the time."
Interesting. Why???
I HAVE been known NOT to expend energy on the idea of "What's it worth", and just "enjoy". Is there something wrong with that?