"Provoke ire"?? I have noticed many attacks on Michael but I sure hope that wasn't refering to me as there was absolutely no sarcasm in my admiration for Michael's experience and knowledge. I love his work and wish I could afford some examples of it to help me on my learning curve. And maybe decorate a wall. :-)

I simply wanted to understand what he was saying as it didn't make sense to me but the second post clarifies it and I have nothing to dissagree with. APUG is a forum for exchanging ideas and if you don't "get it" ya need to ask, so I did.

Bob

BTW Ed that's a good Idea, just do it and see what happens. Reminds me of learning tennis when I was told to quit thinking and just react, my game improved immediately. But of course I had already learned some basics first.