Quote Originally Posted by Donald Miller
Without metering the scene, the exposure would have been F16 at 1/60 second in bright sunlight. Allowing two additional stops of exposure because the overcast conditions makes the correct exposure F16 at 1/15 second.

You overexposed by four stops. Not two stops as someone else suggested.

Considering the scene, had I made this exposure I probably would have exposed this at F16 1/3 and given N+ development to gain better sky value separation.
Thanks very much for the advice Im afraid zone three on on zone 5 does not mean a lot to me at the moment I iwll have to read up on Mr Adams, Im using a Sekonic light meter
so would I take the meter reading and adjust two stops for the shadow rule to get an overall reading, the meter reading was taken from the apron of the building in the darkest part so is that why I overexposed on the sky, the meter on this shot trold me f16 at 1 second on 50 iso