Jump down the newbies throat why don't you!
I have experienced six Zeiss camera's putting many a roll of film through them. That doesn't make me an expert but I think that justifies an opinion. The lenses are okay but the sun dosen't shine out of their apatures. As with the Holga they have character which could be what you want, just dont expect the same as a modern day MF. At the same time, I am using a Zeiss MF as my main camera which has a Tessar lens and I think it is fantastic. What I was trying to put across before you tried to choke me is dont expect too much. Geeze, you really know how to welcome people don't you? I'll go away now and cry in the corner after being shot down.