I've had a great time renting a 617 on some trips to Europe, and have been looking into getting this format.

Could anyone give me some feedback? I recently saw 2 Chinese made which have 16mm shift, which sounds like a valuable feature, as well as a very low cost. As much as I appreciate quality, I can't feel justified in spending for something cool like a Linhof.

I don't think I'm ready to get a view camera and add a 617 back.

Also, I think one of the models has a bellows (for ground glass?), don't know if this is a plus or not.