A box brownie was the first camera I used for medium format, actually the first camera I used and developed my own film, and I'm still impressed by the results I get from it. They're actually quite accurate little cameras if you can work within their limitations...but since they have no light leaks or full plastic construction, I suppose some people would feel fit to dismiss them as not worthy of toy camera status. I guess like the people who'd laugh at you when I bring playing cards to school instead of the latest trading cards Just take photos, if anyone complains it's their problem.