Withers literally has thousands of black and white prints in his studio. I saw almost no color work. I think he still does some of his own developing, there was a small dark room in the back of the studio. Much of the work I saw was in organizational disarray; what he needs is the firm hand of a curator and organizer. Apparently, some of his work is now being sold via an East Coast photographic agency.

Interestingly enough, his #1 line of thinking was a comparison with Gordon Parks who, Withers thought, got all the fame and recognition.

Secondly, he had almost no interest in discussing anything artistic. I would ask him: Dr. Withers, tell me a bit about your compositional techniques, he would look at me like I was an idiot and say: I just brought my camera! For him, "Pictures tell the story," so there is no need for explanations.

At the end of the interview, I thought I'd push his buttons a little and asked him: Dr. Withers, do you shoot with a digital camera? Lol, that really got him going - and not in a good way!

It took me a while to figure out that when he was referring to something on his "television," he meant his computer monitor.