[QUOTE=TPPhotog maybe I should get around to playing with some of my outdated rolls soon.

There have been threads in recent months about members using Pyrocat with
"partial stand" and "minimal" development agitation also about how long Rodinal lasts, you may have read them. I just thought that I would experiment a bit with a film and a developer that I was considering throwing away because of their age. Use a 120 film if you have one because it does not take so long to expose it. I usually find that when I am limited with film for some reason, it goes quickly and when I want to run it through quickly, I cannot find the subjects !