It's unfortunate but cirkuts are becoming challenging to set up to use, especially for the beginner. I was lucky that kodak was still selling 8" verichrome that I could learn on. It's helpful to know how factory spooled film should work. Spooling film is a big pain, and getting film to spool is harder all the time. I'm hoping the small film manufacturers will consider reasonable special orders like forte did. I'm working on cutting jigs to cut film down to the sizes I want. I really like my 6 outfit but have to cut larger film to use it.