Yeah I should point out that I do get an image but the overall plate, if it is sitting on a table for example, is frosted even after the development I gave it. I didn't develop with meths though - i used white spirit. I also poured the plate (pour 2ml in the middle of the 4x6 plate and tilt it until it covers the plate, let excess drip off one corner and wipe off the underside); I never thought of brushing it on. I think last night was the first time in the last week that I wasn't pouring plates but only because I had clothes drying above the bathtub where I usually work. I might try to coat plates again and see if I can get this physautotype stuff working again. I'm wondering if I have to mix up fresh solution or something because I've really not had a plate work since that first one