Yes it is pretty much the same, as well as Neofin-blue. I am getting ready to do some side by side testing of beutlers and Rodinal 50 to 1. I am thinking that maybe the sharpness and compensating affect is nearly as good with the Rodinal but with the added benifit beautifully glowing whites. I sometimes think the whites with the beutlers are a bit muggy (for lack of a better word) especially if you keep the densities down.