I had about 6 or 8 rolls of 16 and 20" "Ilfocolour 2000" in a gloss and a matte. I loved the paper. I also used a paper called 'supergloss' which was a paper based paper with a surface similar to flex. This was also great paper and I was told that it was Ilford's attempt at Ciba like RA4 material. I have not seen an RA4, paper based ilford product in N America since the late '90s or 2000 at the latest, I believe they only do flex materials in Ra4.