I have to agree I've always preferred ID-11 to Microphen or ID-68 for normal use.

However before XP1 & 2 were released I regularly shot Rock concerts using HP5 at 1600 or 3200 ISO and then Microphen/ID-68 came into its own, it was substantially better.

The two PQ variants of ID-11 aren't like Microphen/ID-68 which has been tweaked to give the extra speed boost by cutting the Sulphite, which also leads to the slightly more pronounce grain.

Some people like that slightly gritty edge that Microphen/ID-68 gives.

Ian