HMM none of you guys would like the few comments about this thread I have made here at home...Of course I had to stop laughing first! MEN complaing about smell? excuse me? since when has a little smell bothered the male of the species? But then you have not had to walk into a darkroom behind a guy who has not had a shower or such in a week, with no usage of deoderant. Now that stinks. It even permeates past the stop bath odor. Come on guys toughen up!