still playing with the server, the email spam/anti-virus is going nuts pegging one of the cpu cores and I'm trying to get them to uninstall it since I have no need for it on the server (basically just send outgoing mails from it). Once that app is nuked things will speed up, and I have a server optimization coming from vbulletin in a few days that I'll apply to the server then we'll be looking pretty good. Still need to fix ssl shopping cart, resetup my data rsync and mysql scheduled dumps for the offsite backups, etc etc.. fun & games