Well, the 30th is out for me because of the Bob Dylan concert at Carthage College(I am so pshyced for that). That is one of the very few things I would place over going out and photographing. I hope he does "Just Like a Woman" So the next Saturday (Nov. 6th) sounds like a date. Lets plan on it. Jeanette....I don't know how the perinial farm will look in november? I say let's all go to Grace's house! She wouldn't mind. For some reason I'd like to go to Milwaukee and I don't know what it is but I believe it would be fruitful. Thoughts, comments?????