much as I'd like to believe in their holders, they've been "bringing them to market" for over 2 years now. I was waiting oh so patiently for their 5x7 holders for six months or maybe more, then caved in and bought Shen Hao holders. 5x7 has an ANSI/ISO standard, unlike whole plate. If Fotoman still doesn't have their 5x7 holders available, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the whole plate ones.