I printed some 4X5 negs on 16X20 hard grade, and really like the results. Used Agfa Neutol WA which gave a slightly warm tone to the prints. In another thread, J&C mention that the paper is actually Forte Fortezo grades #2, #3, & #4. The actual size of the paper is 50-60mm ( had to make my homemade 16X20 easel adjustable to hold it properly). Look forward to them carrying all sizes in this excellent paper.