Dave, next time we have a trip planned, we will certainly let you know. I posted in the WI regional forum the last two years and yours was the only response for the fall trips!! not sure if we are planning one next fall or not though. We've done it the last two years running, as well as a few winter excursions. Watch this space for any future trips. That said, are you going to photosock next June at Bill schwab's place in MI. Should be an easy trip for you. Get the ferry across.