OH!! a big Sorry form Me. When I said I had 65 of the holders and 20 plates it should have read. "65 of the holders and an extra 20 dark film plates" All, I repeat all of the film holders will come with two "dark film Plates" Sorry again if I confused you, it was late and I was tired. And, thats when you do not want me defusing a bomb in your living room or removing film from the magazine or holder which ever camera you happen to intrust to me..