I really hope my question didn't sound either elitist or Michael Smith disciple-like. As I wrote, I never considered the difference until the prints were side by side. It was like the first time I noticed there really is a difference between incandescent light and sunlight. And I seriously wonder if it's not my enlarging technique that is partly or mostly responsible. It may be that I have been so worried about losing detail that I have printed blacks too conservatively.

I have seen Oriental for sale, but in a different package than I once bought years ago. I have so much Agfa and Ilford that I have not bought it yet. Is it the same? And for those who have used it and Ilford and/or Agfa classic, do you think it would be more of what I am looking for?

And Les, I'm heading off to Chapter Four right now.

Thanks again for the input!

dgh