I see where you guys are coming from with the club phobia and the last thing I want to do is create something in the same vein.

However I think formally setting up a group has a lot to offer in terms of better organisation for regular events and a greater sense of participation. I could really do with being part of a group with regular planned out goals and thats not happening with the informal setup that we have here at the moment.

Iím not going to give anyone the hard sell on this, if you fancy getting involved with a group of like minded people and see if theres something in it for you then thats super, if not, no problem.