This was arrangeable back in Oct. But now many have plans and a full slate of events. What about a post holidays gathering when there is no pressures? I-5 is the main artery through the state. There is a very picturesque wild life refuge in the central valley. What about meeting near that. We could find a nice motel with a large room to meet in, and those who do not wish to drive both ways in one day, can stay. We would also have the WR as a venue to go shoot in. It is the same place Roman Loranc shoots a lot of his in.