I purchased and recently printed on the mentioned Ilford MGIV WT. I can't see a difference in Ilford WT paper tint from what I purchased 2 years ago. The new Bergger WT, coated in UK, does have a brighter, less creme, base tint as does Fotokemika Varycon KG. If you are looking for a very warm paper the new Oriental may fit the bill.