I was talking to John this afternoon, and there are a couple of points worth mentioning about this place. I would recommend Tmax for this time of year because of the heavy "canopy" of leaves. I had some reciprocity problems with other films. Also, the early AM and late afternoon are best-otherwise, way too splotchy with sun spots. Overcast but bright is the best for summer. Once you get up the first hill from the lot (and it's only about 150 feet) it's pretty easy to get around. See you there. I'll be happy to take anyone to some of my other favorite spots up this way if the ledges aren't to your liking.