Sorry Mike. I wasn't sure where Converse is. A few weeks ago, the Saturday it rained 40 days & 40 nights, some Texas Photo Forum members from S.A. met us in Luling for lunch. After lunch we split up. The vehicle I was in stayed under the rain cloud all afternoon north to the New Sweden Church and back to Houston via Elgin & Giddings. The other vehicle stayed closer to I-10 and dry all afternoon. Go figure.