</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Robert @ Apr 8 2003, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> If you don&#39;t use filters on VC paper you&#39;ll usually get grade two.

Which Agfa developer are you using? I&#39;m also using an Agfa developer and I&#39;ll say this. It lasts alot longer then 1 month-))) The stuff is very cheap and I think that hurts it. People think it must be crap. The stuff I&#39;m using is rated at over 100 8x10 of working solution. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Grade 2 is what they tell me - I think it is a little flatter than that - I usually go with a 2 1/2 filter rather than none. The label reads B&W Multicontrast paper developer - makes 25 to 35liters - wow - I am pretty happy with it - and it IS cheap to use. I still am experimenting with paper developers and it does seem to give up on the highlights sooner than glycin based brews.