</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Robert @ Apr 8 2003, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> If you don't use filters on VC paper you'll usually get grade two.
Which Agfa developer are you using? I'm also using an Agfa developer and I'll say this. It lasts alot longer then 1 month-))) The stuff is very cheap and I think that hurts it. People think it must be crap. The stuff I'm using is rated at over 100 8x10 of working solution. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Grade 2 is what they tell me - I think it is a little flatter than that - I usually go with a 2 1/2 filter rather than none. The label reads B&W Multicontrast paper developer - makes 25 to 35liters - wow - I am pretty happy with it - and it IS cheap to use. I still am experimenting with paper developers and it does seem to give up on the highlights sooner than glycin based brews.