After following this thread I ordered some to try so here is my take. It seems to be fairly fast, more like Lodima than Azo. My densest neg required 32 seconds from a 60 watt soft white at 4 feet. I had a very thin one that took 3/4 second so I switched to 40 watts. Comes up a little slower than Lodima in the Ansco 130. The dry down is significant. The matte surface is very fine. It bleaches and tones readily. There is a slight curl to the dry prints. Bottom line in my book, great for proofing.