Thanks very much Robert! I will give that a try again. I tried it at wildbill's suggestion earlier, but it did not work -- I now realize that it was because the chemicals were dead. Now that I am working fresh again, I will give the temperature bump another try. Did he mention any other suggestions for working with an expert drum? That is my main reason for using a jobo...I am currently the only person in Iceland that I am aware of who is processing 4x5 E6...