Yes, well be that as it may, the attached image from a glass plate is from an emulsion that was made at 50 deg C and used ammonia. It was an SRAD. Denise has this formula. This photo was shot in a Speed Graphic at ISO 40 and processed in D-76 for 11' at 68 deg. The hardener used was a mix of glyoxal and chrome alum. I have made this formula up to 60C.